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to prep for the first of the three debates that they will have starting tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game changer for their nominee who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all of those details. brian, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns this debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it'll be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective views. >> reporter: romney is hoping to pick up a few votes with an endorsement from football great john elway. president obama is taking the personal approach to nail down votes. >> this is barack obama. >> reporter: and like romney, the president sees this debate as a chance to talk to america. >> it's a choice between two different paths for this country. it's a choice between two fundamentally different visions for our nation. >> reporter:
to prep for the first of the three debates that they will have starting tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game changer for their nominee who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all of those details. brian, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns this debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential...
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brooks wrote an opening statement for romney to deliver tomorrow night. it's mostly fantasy, but it's essentially, tamron, romney say, look, i'm not the idea log i've been running as. i needed to do this to get this far in the process. i think he's the massachusetts mitt and not the inkarn nation that sought the presidency. i'm surprised by the timing. i'm not surprised by the interviews you make reference to. i'm surprised it took that long to get there. the troops don't need more red meat. wild horses could not keep them away from voting against barack obama. he didn't spend enough time in the middle. >> let's bring chris in. he points out some of the vulnerabilities for the president during the debate tomorrow. they talk about the two-minute active ad where he references 100,000 new math and science teachers as well as additional manufacturing jobs in this country. they point out during his second term, how do you break the fever or the part zan fever in washington. many democrats dismiss saying mitch mcconnell and others said they would never work wit
brooks wrote an opening statement for romney to deliver tomorrow night. it's mostly fantasy, but it's essentially, tamron, romney say, look, i'm not the idea log i've been running as. i needed to do this to get this far in the process. i think he's the massachusetts mitt and not the inkarn nation that sought the presidency. i'm surprised by the timing. i'm not surprised by the interviews you make reference to. i'm surprised it took that long to get there. the troops don't need more red meat....
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mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i can't have illegals. rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds. and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? >> well, let's bring in democratic strategist chris ko kofinis and susan del percio. i think romney is going to lose his cool. susan, did governor chris
mitt romney must accomplish a lot on wednesday night to begin to alter this race across the board. romney's team is loading him up with a bunch of zingers for the debate according to to "the new york times." romney has memorized these zingers and has been practicing them on aids since august. romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments....
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>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> the president meanwhile spent most of the day yesterday preparing for the debate. at his nevada campaign headquarters. taking a break to deliver pizza to one of the local campaign offices. he then started working the phones to thank volunteers. >> that was very nice, you know. you know, although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> also in henderson, nevada, last night, just eight miles away from wher
>> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about...
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george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favorite right now. we have seen obama recently in a higher position than he's been in all year, maybe higher than you would expect based on where the economy is. so i do think romney should have a tail wind at the same time the stuff we're mentioning where he also has tried to avoid articulating where his positions are on a lot of issues, a lot that is common sense but if you take positions further away from the center that damages you and he's not done a lot of running to the center at all in this campaign. that's unusual and he'll be proebds for more detail during the debate. >> the american pu
george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a...
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instead to prep for the first of their three debates tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game changer for their nominee. who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all the details. brian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns, this first debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it will be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective views. >> reporter: romney is hoping to pick up a few votes with an endorsement from football great john elway. president obama is taking the personal approach to nail down support. >> this is barack obama. >> reporter: and like romney, the president sees this debate as a chance to talk to america. >> it's a choice between two different paths for this country. it's a choice between two fundamentally different visions for our nation. >> reporter:
instead to prep for the first of their three debates tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game changer for their nominee. who right now trails the president in every battleground state. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with all the details. brian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. for both campaigns, this first debate brings both challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the...
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tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 . >>> paul ryan foolishly set mitt romney up for a big fail in wednesday night's debate by claiming that no one, no one wants to hear the math on the romney/ryan tax plan. sam stein and jonathan cape heart will join me. and arnold schwarzenegger in the rewrite tonight. . >>> the problem we've had is not everybody knows all the specification we've put out there. not everybody knows these plans, our five-point plan for a stronger middle class. >> of course no one knows the specifics of mitt romney and paul ryan's tax plan because they haven't given any specifics. even fox news chris wallace wants more details on how the romney/ryan tax plan would actually work. >> well, how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the deductions, but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans' tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost. >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away from the deduction. the first half lowering the tax rates, does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. i won't get into a baseline argume
tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 . >>> paul ryan foolishly set mitt romney up for a big fail in wednesday night's debate by claiming that no one, no one wants to hear the math on the romney/ryan tax plan. sam stein and jonathan cape heart will join me. and arnold schwarzenegger in the rewrite tonight. . >>> the problem we've had is not everybody knows all the specification we've put out there. not everybody knows these plans, our five-point plan for a stronger middle class. >> of...
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this is a big, big debate on wednesday night. this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the debates will be very important, said one person with knowledge of the matter. if romney does well, that money could come back. >>> new jersey's governor, chris christie the current front runner for the presidential nomination 2016 has decided his job is to state the obvious. >> it's a huge night. we've had a bad couple of weeks and we want to turn this around and if you want to turn it around you've got to perform on the stage. they try to say the president is not that good a debater or mitt romney is a little scared of the president. those are the pr
this is a big, big debate on wednesday night. this is much bigger than the mccain-obama debate. >> today mitt romney traveled from boston to colorado where the debate will be held as a major player in romney's fund raiser confirmed to fox business that a few new york donors have backed away from financial commitments to the romney campaign and instead said they will spend their money to help the republicans hold on to the house of representatives and pick up seats in the senate. the...
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mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had lines for the base. may even tested out a few zingers we might hear wednesday night. >> this is a home to focus on the family which is committed to preserving the foundation of america. we have to get the pipe laine from canada if i have to build it myself. >> it will kill america's entrepreneurship. >> that's the first time, by the wa
mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so...
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for mitt romney. right now he trails the president in every battleground state. a new quinnipiac poll out this morning shows president obama has an 18 point lead over romney among women. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with more on all this. brian, good morning. >> reporter: for both campaigns this first debate is filled can challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it'll be a conversation with the american people that will span almost an entire month. we'll get to describe our respective views. >> reporter: romney is hoping to pick up a few votes with an endorsement from football great john elway. president obama is taking the personal approach to nail down support. >> this is barack obama. >> reporter: and like romney, the president sees this debate as a chance to talk to america. >> it's a choice between two different paths for this country. it's a choice between two fundamentally different visions for our na
for mitt romney. right now he trails the president in every battleground state. a new quinnipiac poll out this morning shows president obama has an 18 point lead over romney among women. nbc's brian mooar joins us from washington with more on all this. brian, good morning. >> reporter: for both campaigns this first debate is filled can challenge and opportunity. as denver gets ready for tomorrow night's first presidential debate, so are the candidates. >> it'll be a conversation...
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mitt romney is on the outskirts as they prepare for tomorrow night's debate. president obama finishing up some last-minute preparation in nevada. tomorrow night is the first of three debates. it to be a focus on domestic policy. there is a news coming out from the campaign trail in pennsylvania. the press reporting that democrats that the new voter advocation requirements from going into affect on election day. democrats said the requirement was a ploy to help defeat the president while republicans said it was an effort to prevent voter fraud. they will still be able to ask voters for a valid vote to i did vacation but those without them can vote on a regular polling machine. -- identification but those without them can vote on a regular polling machine. >> the milly dowler is setting up for tomorrow night. -- the reporters are setting up for tomorrow night. this is the sign of the first presidential debate. tomorrow night is focusing on domestic policy. the 22nd will be a foreign policy debate. all of the debates will be like here on c-span. our coverage more
mitt romney is on the outskirts as they prepare for tomorrow night's debate. president obama finishing up some last-minute preparation in nevada. tomorrow night is the first of three debates. it to be a focus on domestic policy. there is a news coming out from the campaign trail in pennsylvania. the press reporting that democrats that the new voter advocation requirements from going into affect on election day. democrats said the requirement was a ploy to help defeat the president while...
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wassaying it was mitt romney's night. it was all about domestic issues last night. they talked about the economy and health care. the term that has now been coined using obama care. president barack obama fired back when talking about taxes. irani said he would not raise taxes on the middle-class. president obama said how could he do that without increasing the deficit. today people are talking about how each canada did. some believe president obama may have been too relaxed. others believe iran may have gone the boost he needed. >>-- other believed mitt romney may have gotten the boost he needeed. >>d. >> some political analysts believe the boosted its may only be one or two percentage points. others are also asking questions about why president obama did not raise the issue of the 47% statement, the video we talked about four weeks about why he did not question their romney on that issue as well. this is just round one of the debate. they will meet again october 16 and 22nd. >> thank you very much. a little more analysi
wassaying it was mitt romney's night. it was all about domestic issues last night. they talked about the economy and health care. the term that has now been coined using obama care. president barack obama fired back when talking about taxes. irani said he would not raise taxes on the middle-class. president obama said how could he do that without increasing the deficit. today people are talking about how each canada did. some believe president obama may have been too relaxed. others believe...
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mitt romney is in denver where last night he tried to put the kibosh on predebate winning. >> people want to know who is going to win, who will make the biggest difference and scoring of winning and losing. in my view it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> his rival president obama who is in day number three of debate camp in nevada dropped by one of his own campaign headquarters. >> it was very nice, you know. although, basically, they are keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they are making me do my homework. >> despite the best efforts, the drum beat is building. it's getting louder and louder with great debate expectations on both sides of the aisle. >> i expect the tone to be a little bit less aggressive than people might be expecting. i expect the content to be pointed and sharp and specific. i think you can go into combat without having to raise the decibels too
mitt romney is in denver where last night he tried to put the kibosh on predebate winning. >> people want to know who is going to win, who will make the biggest difference and scoring of winning and losing. in my view it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> his rival president...
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brian who do you think won last night? >> i think romney won stylically. romm rom made the point he will not raise the taxes on the wealthy. that is false. he talked about lowering the rates for top income folks and corporate rate. one of the things i was saying earlier, i called my aunt. wait a minute, i knew romney was going to privatize medicare and they are leaving that out. if you are issue oriented when you hear romney say i am going to voucherize medicare you are concerned. >> it is not just about medicare, benjamin. he said he will not raise taxes. he will cut spending and cutting spending you take those dollars to decrease taxes. small businesses have been taxed enough. the reason why we have the tea party, we are taxed enough already . the bottom line, obama came up with great friends but 47 million people are on food stampings. >> you seem to disagree with a lot of pundits who said obama didn't do his best last night. romney won hands down. body language alone. if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his no
brian who do you think won last night? >> i think romney won stylically. romm rom made the point he will not raise the taxes on the wealthy. that is false. he talked about lowering the rates for top income folks and corporate rate. one of the things i was saying earlier, i called my aunt. wait a minute, i knew romney was going to privatize medicare and they are leaving that out. if you are issue oriented when you hear romney say i am going to voucherize medicare you are concerned....
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. >> stephanie: that wasn't at night. well, i think he should have spoken more prematurely like mitt romney did. >> excuse me, they actually had information several goes going into it from the ambassador stating that he was in fear for his life. >> stephanie: obviously the investigation is not finished yesterday. but are you denying that there has been wide-spread violence over there? >> caller: are you denying -- >> she asked you a question, ma'am. >> stephanie: they are trying to get all of the details. what your point? >> caller: my question is what is your view on his response -- >> stephanie: my response is he is waiting for all of the facts. >> caller: he went to a fund raiser that might -- >> and mitt romneying went to a similar fund raiser that night -- not yet. >> stephanie: what should he have been doing? >> should he have flown to libya and done the investigation himself? >> caller: i think he should have stood up as the international leader that he is supposed to be. >> stephanie: and said what? >> caller: one
. >> stephanie: that wasn't at night. well, i think he should have spoken more prematurely like mitt romney did. >> excuse me, they actually had information several goes going into it from the ambassador stating that he was in fear for his life. >> stephanie: obviously the investigation is not finished yesterday. but are you denying that there has been wide-spread violence over there? >> caller: are you denying -- >> she asked you a question, ma'am. >>...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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romney demolished that last night. how is it going to appear to anybody who has seen romney demolish that. >> bill: i agree. romney has to also. >> he has to use his stuff wisely. >> bill: he has got to come up with a theme. romney doesn't have a theme yet. what he done last night was won the debate on his own personal command of the issues. now he has got to get a theme for the second and third debate. and the theme i would assume would be president's incompetent. he is a not doing it on the economy or overseas. last word, charld? >> unfortunately you are wrong. that's the tact that he has tried. the guy is a good guy but he failed. it didn't work. that's the clint eastwood line. his attack has to be what he did last night. this is trickle down government. the reason everything has gone wrong, the debt is high. the economy is struggling. unemployment is high is because is he a trickle down government guy. that's where he scored all his points. if he keeps it up with a barrage of that from here to election day, he wins
romney demolished that last night. how is it going to appear to anybody who has seen romney demolish that. >> bill: i agree. romney has to also. >> he has to use his stuff wisely. >> bill: he has got to come up with a theme. romney doesn't have a theme yet. what he done last night was won the debate on his own personal command of the issues. now he has got to get a theme for the second and third debate. and the theme i would assume would be president's incompetent. he is a not...
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>> you saw the clip you played with mitt romney in colorado, president obama on sunday night in las vegas, both basically what they both said is the media wants this to be a back and forth brawl, we're going to be serious and focus on the issues because they understand that when it comes to undecided voters, tend to be people, not always, politically independent. those kind of people don't like the nastiness, the back and forth. partisans love that. but independents don't like it. the messaging is i'm a serious person, these are serious times, and we need someone who has the ability, capacity, demonstrated record to lead. so i actually think both of them will be kind of the serious and sober politician as opposed to you showed the clip of scott brown and elizabeth warren, i don't think that's what's going to happen tomorrow night. >> mark, we've seen a lot of evidence so far and see more when we go through the numbers tonight in the nbc news "wall street journal" poll the final numbers when they come out how important do you think the 47% comment is? because we've seen a real shift with m
>> you saw the clip you played with mitt romney in colorado, president obama on sunday night in las vegas, both basically what they both said is the media wants this to be a back and forth brawl, we're going to be serious and focus on the issues because they understand that when it comes to undecided voters, tend to be people, not always, politically independent. those kind of people don't like the nastiness, the back and forth. partisans love that. but independents don't like it. the...
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: just how did romney get ahead last night? by aggressively taking on the president, part of the romney strategy, going into the debate. moments like this one. as the two debated the debt, that bipartisan plan that got nowhere in washington. >> but in my view, the president should have grabbed it, if he wanted to make some adjustments to it, take it, go to congress, fight for it. >> that's what we've done. made some adjustments and we're putting it forward to congress right now. >> but you've been president four years. >> reporter: but on that stage, in front of a much broader audience than usual, romney doing something else last night. appearing more moderate than the red meat offered up on the campaign trail or in the primaries. on cutting taxes, even for the rich, the tone, different. during the primary -- >> i said today, we're going to cut taxes on everyone, across the country, by 20%. including the top 1%. >> reporter: last night? >> i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your run
: just how did romney get ahead last night? by aggressively taking on the president, part of the romney strategy, going into the debate. moments like this one. as the two debated the debt, that bipartisan plan that got nowhere in washington. >> but in my view, the president should have grabbed it, if he wanted to make some adjustments to it, take it, go to congress, fight for it. >> that's what we've done. made some adjustments and we're putting it forward to congress right now....
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with fox news last night romney had a different explanation. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's completely wrong. >> both candidates campaign in battleground states today. romney work to capitalize on a strong debate, the president working to regroup. susan mcginnis covering it all in washington this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: back on the campaign trail mitt romney is trying to prolong the momentum that he got from that debate, president obama is seemed determined to make up for lost ground. romney's solid debate performance gave him a new spark on the. campaign trail. before an estimated 10,000 people in virginia he kept up his attacks on the president. >> what you didn't hear last night from the president why it is the next four years will be better than the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back
with fox news last night romney had a different explanation. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's completely wrong. >> both candidates campaign in battleground states today. romney work to capitalize on a strong debate, the president working to regroup. susan mcginnis covering it all in washington this morning. susan,...
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the president tries to rally after mitt romney's big night. what insiders tell us today about why the president was off his game. >>> breaking news. those loose passenger seats force american airlines to ground 48 planes tonight, causing even more delays and cancelled flights. >>> health alert. a mysterious outbreak of meningitis, deaths, serious illness. and it's linked to a treatment for back pain which was somehow contaminated. >>> real money. can we put thousands of dollars in your pocket right now? doubling the value of that old car in your driveway. >>> good evening. we begin with that question we heard asked across the country today. what was going on with president obama at the big debate with governor mitt romney last night? we have learned that 67.2 million americans were watching last night and governor romney came out swinging. the president seemed to be dodging the fight. with only 33 days to go until your voice, your vote, why was the president off his game? has the whole race changed today? we'll start with abc's jake tapper, he
the president tries to rally after mitt romney's big night. what insiders tell us today about why the president was off his game. >>> breaking news. those loose passenger seats force american airlines to ground 48 planes tonight, causing even more delays and cancelled flights. >>> health alert. a mysterious outbreak of meningitis, deaths, serious illness. and it's linked to a treatment for back pain which was somehow contaminated. >>> real money. can we put thousands...